Saturday, June 21, 2008

Skinny Boys Rule!

We took Ladan to his 4-year doctor's appointment yesterday. He measured in at 42 inches and weighed 33.6 pounds. Well, they said 41.75 inches, but he was afraid of the thing coming down on his head, so he scrunched down a bit. If he straightened up, he'd be at least 42 inches, so we'll go with that. That puts him somewhere just under or at the 90th percentile for his height, and just under the 50th percentile for his weight. Not bad! At least until you look at the height to weight ratio chart where he shows up as being so skinny for his height that he's not even on the chart. When I look at him, I don't see him as that skinny. So I decided to play it forward a bit. If he's on exactly the same curve when he's 20 years old, he'll be about 6 foot 3 inches and about 152-155 pounds! Okay, well, that is one skinny man indeed! In any case, he's healthy, and there are no concerns at this point about his size and stature.

We also did a quick weight check on Gabe, and he gained about a pound and a half, bringing him up to the 3rd percentile for his weight. All right, little man! Again, he's much taller proportionally, so he's way off the chart (as in, way below the low end of the chart) for height-to-weight ratio... but he's healthy, and that's all I care about.

The doctor surprised me and told me that they generally do all the 5-year immunizations at the 4-year appointment. Hmmm. I had just told Ladan that he wasn't getting any shots at this appointment. They schedule the MMR, polio, chicken pox, and DTaP shots all at the same time. As a quick intro to the post I'll write later about my vaccine research, I'll say we declined the vaccines at this appointment. In short, here's why.... We know for sure that there are certain vaccines that we're not going to do, and the ones we might do will not be done all on the same visit. I need to review my research, and we need to make some decisions about whether and when we're going to get started on each of them.

We do know that we're not planning to do the chicken pox vaccine right now. It's made with some pretty gross stuff, and we'd actually rather our boys get chicken pox as children and get it over with. The childhood vaccine doesn't necessarily give them immunity into their teen and adult years anyway, and it's MUCH more dangerous for them to get chicken pox as teens or adults. I did read that the 5-year booster is supposed to make it more likely that immunity will last into adulthood, but it's obviously new, so the jury is still out on that one. So, our plan at this point is to hope that they can get the pox sometime when they're young and get it over with. If they don't actually get chicken pox, then we'll have them tested as preteens to see if they've got immunity (sometimes you can build up enough immunity even if you've never had chicken pox). If they're not immune at that point, and if the manufacturers use different stuff to make the shot by then, there's a 2-shot series we can get them to give them immunity through adulthood. Basically, if we can avoid the nasty ingredients AND give them lifelong immunity just by letting them get the pox during childhood, then that's a lot better than the alternatives in our minds. Or, better yet, if they can develop immunity during childhood from little bits of exposure without ever getting the full-blown disease, then they're in even better shape... and we will have avoided putting nasty stuff in their bodies.

There are two manufacturers of the DTaP vaccine (diptheria, tetanus, and pertussis). One manufacturer uses ingredients and a procedure that does not make use of nasty (i.e. possibly morally compromising) ingredients, so we'll just ask if we can get that one at our pediatrician's office and go for it. Both the DTaP varieties do include seemingly excessive amounts of aluminum, so this is something to consider. However, it seems like it's the case that coming down with the diseases would likely be a lot worse than the side effects of the aluminum. Hard to tell since there have been no real studies done on the way the body processes high doses of aluminum in certain immunizations. In any case, we'll probably go ahead and do this one if we can choose the one made without gross stuff.

As for the others, I need to revisit my research, and we need to think more about them. If you're interested, one book I've read recently is The Vaccine Book by Robert W. Sears, M.D. It was very well-written, easy to read, and lists all his resources in the back of the book if you want to do further research. I will say that it's fairly important to read the entire book just so you can get his full perspective on things, but it's such an easy read that I completed almost the entire book on one flight to Texas.

4 comments:

Lily of the Valley said...

Pardon me ahead of time - I'm not dealing with a full deck since I got hardly any sleep last night. . . Can I get tested for chicken pox immunity? I've never had the chicken pox, but I got a vaccine a number of years ago. (Was it made of gross stuff, too?). See how ignorant I am?

Phyllis said...

Hey Lily!

You could get tested to see if you're immune, but if you got the vaccine just a few years ago, then it seems like you probably would be immune (you'll have to check with your doctor since I'm not one). The idea is that, if a person has not had the vaccine OR the chicken pox, then they can get tested to see if they've naturally built up an immunity just from exposure... even if they never came down with the full-blown chicken pox, they could still have immunity.

So we'd have the boys tested as preteens to see if they're immune. If so, that's great. If not, then we'll have to check into how the shots are manufactured at that point.

Currently, the vaccine is grown in a culture made partially of lung cells from human embryos, guinea pig embryo cells, serum from a cow fetus, and human diploid cells of an origin unknown to the author of the book I was reading.

We are pretty disturbed by the human cells used in the manufacturing of this vaccine, particularly since it is clear that part of them come from human embryos and the other portion is from an unrevealed origin.

Our boys have both had the initial chicken pox shot. I wish this wasn't the case, but nevertheless, it is. We will avoid this in the future, but we can't do anything about the past.

Additionally, even if our boys get the chicken pox as children, there is an antiviral medication that they can take within the first few days of contracting the illness that can make it more tolerable. Even in that case, as long as they're otherwise healthy, we'd probably just let it run its course and get them over it.

jenny said...

Phyllis, I was really skeptical about alternative approaches to vaccines, but now I'm very interested! What does the book have to say about vaccines that are required for children to attend public school? In Columbia, the schools are obsessed with vaccine records- our office gets faxes from then all the time about how refugees need more vaccines...

Phyllis said...

Hey Jenny!

In general, states have a form that can be filled out and signed by parents. According to Dr. Sears', public schools in all states will waive the requirement for vaccines for medical reasons with a doctor's note. All but two states (West Virginia and Mississippi) will waive the requirement if there is a religious reason. And there are 20 states that don't require any reason at all, simply a form saying that the parents have decided not to do the immunizations. FYI--Missouri and Kentucky are not included in this most lenient group of states, but will waive the requirement for people who decline the vaccines for medical or religious reasons.

Beyond this, you have to make sure your pediatrician's office will serve you in his/her practice if you choose an alternate schedule or choose to decline some vaccines. If our doctor decides to release us because we're choosing not to do the chicken pox vaccine, I'm happy to find another doctor.

There is a website that has pre-written forms for each state waiving the vaccines. Let me know if you're interested, and I can try to track down the URL. I haven't needed it yet, so I don't have it handy, but one of my friends has it.